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A new Faith in Ten challenges Christians to see companionship, covenant, and the full humanity of LGBTQ relationships.
Season 1
In the first episode of Inclusive Faith Podcast, Kade Rogers and Dr. Gregory S. Neal introduce the heart behind the podcast and why these conversations matter.
After years of talking honestly about faith, identity, church hurt, inclusion, and what it means to belong, Kade and Greg are inviting others into the conversation. This episode shares why the podcast exists, who it is for, and what listeners can expect from Season 1.
Whether you have been hurt by the church, are trying to hold onto faith, are questioning what you believe, or simply want a more honest and inclusive conversation about Christianity, this podcast is for you.
Inclusive Faith is not about having all the answers. It is about making space for real conversations about faith, life, healing, and belonging.
Let’s talk about it.
E1: Why We Started Inclusive Faith
E2: Our Story: Love, Church Hurt, and Finding Our Way
In episode two of Inclusive Faith Podcast, we share more of our story.
How we met. How our relationship grew. And how the church made something beautiful feel complicated, painful, and harder than it ever needed to be.
This conversation is personal, but it is not just about us.
It is about what happens when people are forced to fight for their own dignity in spaces that should have offered love, safety, and belonging.
It is also about healing, reclaiming your voice, and refusing to let other people define your story.
For anyone who has been hurt by the church, questioned where they fit, or had to claw their way back to themselves, we hope this conversation reminds you that you are not alone.
Let’s talk about it.
E3: Why We Stayed Christian After Church Hurt
After everything the church did to us, why in the world would we stay?
That is a question we get asked often. Why stay in ministry? Why stay Christian? Why remain connected to a church or denomination that caused real harm?
In this episode of The Inclusive Faith Podcast, Kade and Greg talk honestly about calling, church hurt, fear, loss, hope, and the complicated reasons they did not walk away. Greg reflects on more than three decades of ministry, the cost of hiding his sexuality, the fear of losing his credentials, and the deep sense of calling that never went away. Kade shares what it was like to believe in the possibility of an inclusive church, only to experience rejection, threats, and the loss of a former career path.
Together, they also talk about the good that still keeps them rooted: children who feel safe in church, people being fed, families receiving care, LGBTQ people hearing that they are loved by God, and the deep belief that the way of Jesus is still worth following.
This is not an episode about pretending the harm did not happen. It is about why harm did not get the final word.
Let’s talk about it.
Greg just spent several days at PrideFest in Des Moines—talking with people at a church booth, worshiping alongside nearly 30 affirming churches, and walking in the Pride parade.
And in all of it, he encountered the presence of God.
Faith in 10 is a new bonus series from The Inclusive Faith Podcast featuring short, focused reflections on faith, inclusion, and life—usually in 10 minutes or less.
In this first episode, Greg reflects on why Pride is not about arrogance or rebellion against God. At its best, Pride is about refusing to be ashamed of who God created us to be. It is a celebration of the truth that LGBTQ+ people are loved, wonderfully made, and fully included in the grace and calling of God.
Greg also shares a moment he will not soon forget. A young transgender person approached him at the booth, saw his “This Queer Pastor Loves You” shirt, and asked whether they could ever become a pastor someday.
His answer was simple: absolutely.
This episode is a reminder that affirming churches matter, public witness matters, and LGBTQ+ people should never have to choose between being fully themselves and responding to God’s call.
Faith in 10: God in the Pride Parade
E4: Surviving Conversion Therapy: Greg’s Story
In this deeply personal episode, Kade Rogers talks with his husband, Dr. Gregory S. Neal, about Greg’s experience surviving conversion therapy as a teenager.
Greg shares the story of being outed as a young person, being told that being gay separated him from God, and being sent into a conversion therapy program that used shame, fear, Scripture, and aversion practices in an attempt to change him.
Together, Kade and Greg talk about the lasting harm of conversion therapy, religious trauma, spiritual abuse, and church harm. They also reflect on the faith and love that helped Greg survive, including the powerful support of his great Aunt Witchy, who reminded him that God loved him exactly as he was.
This episode is a difficult but necessary conversation about why conversion therapy is harmful, why LGBTQ+ people do not need to be fixed, and why faith should never be used as a weapon against someone’s identity.
Content note: This episode includes discussion of conversion therapy, religious trauma, emotional abuse, aversion therapy, suicidal ideation, and church harm.
The comment section has been… educational.
In this Faith in 10 episode, Kade Rogers talks about the comments The Inclusive Faith receives online as LGBTQ-affirming Christians. Some are beautiful. Some are painful. And some reveal a version of Christianity that sounds a lot more like fear and judgment than the love of Jesus.
This episode is for the person quietly reading who still loves God but is afraid God does not love them back.
You are beloved.
You are not alone.
And no comment section gets the final word.
Faith in 10: Dear Comment Section
E5: Does the Bible Really Say That?
Does taking the Bible seriously mean taking every passage literally?
In this episode of The Inclusive Faith Podcast, Kade and Greg talk about biblical literalism, Bible interpretation, progressive Christianity, and the harm that can come when Scripture is read without context. From Noah’s Ark to the parables of Jesus, Genesis, Psalms, science, faith, and Christian deconstruction, they explore why “literal” is not always the same thing as “faithful.”
Faith in 10: Why Do Some Christians Reduce LGBTQ Relationships to Sex?
Why do some Christians reduce LGBTQ relationships to sex while ignoring companionship, covenant, faithfulness, and love?
In this Faith in Ten episode, Greg reflects on Genesis 2, where the first human problem God identifies is loneliness. Queer relationships are about far more than sexual stereotypes. They are about building a life together, caring for one another, sharing joy and grief, and choosing each other again and again.
Greg challenges Christians to consider whether their discomfort truly comes from the Holy Spirit or from fear, tradition, and inherited prejudice. Because discomfort is not automatically discernment, and cruelty does not become Christlike simply because it is wrapped in religious language.
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